Just wanted to do a quick post on how easy it is to move an existing Synology disk group to a different Synology device. I recently had to do that but the information available wasn’t too clear, especially with regards to the safety of existing data etc.
It started a few months ago when my Synology 1515+ started shutting down intermittently, despite being on a perfectly-functioning UPS. Life was such those days that I couldn’t investigate it at all and after a month’s worth of such shutdowns, it died permanently.
A week or so ago, I had a look to isolate the issue. After eliminating added RAM, hard disks, power, cable etc. as issues, it was clear that power supply was the culprit. If you don’t know already, Synology 1515+ or similar class of devices, have a 3-year warranty so I contacted Synology support.
Taking a moment to mention how brilliant they were! Despite the fact that they were in a process of moving their offices/warehouse (thankfully, just half-an-hour away from me!), their responses were very quick. It also helps that I had already pretty much eliminated all other causes and due to proximity, I was able to deliver the device to them myself but RMAs are usually much more tedious and time-consuming. In about a weeks’ time, the whole RMA process was complete and a replacement device delivered to me.
I have three drives in the device and it’s always important to note their slot number when taking them out (to get the device replaced). Unfortunately, if your device dies suddenly, you don’t get a chance to note the DSM version. However, I knew that it was at least DSM 6.1. If you ever have to do this, I hope you’ll have at least DSM 5.x as older version might be slightly more difficult to recover. Synology does provide an article that explains the process to do that but the process assumes that your old device is still available and functioning and requires an additional spare hard disk to be available. In my case, both were not true. That’s why I thought this quick post can help.
Fortunately, the process is surprisingly simple. If you noted the correct order of disks when taking them out, it’s as simple as placing them in exactly the same order in the new device, connecting it to the network and powering it up. Once booted up, go to http://diskstation:5000 and it automatically detects that the drives are coming up in a new environment and offers to “Recover” and if you hover above “Device Info”, it shows you the status as “Recoverable”.
Please note: DO NOT continue if you’re told something along the lines of “All data on the hard drive(s) will be deleted” as that would mean you’ve made a mistake with the order in which you’ve placed them. Power off the Synology and try all the placement permutations until you get it right. Of course, the set might genuinely be corrupted but I am assuming it was good when you started.
You can guess which button to click here. It takes some time but once complete, the device restarts. Here’s the good part: I wasn’t expecting the recovered set to retain all the configuration information but it did. Once up, the device was available on its original IP address with the same username/password combination and with all the applications intact too, as if nothing happened. Of course, there was a DSM update to be done but apart from that, everything was as it was before the failure.
I was expecting that kind of information to be stored just on the device but it must be on the disks too as the device was completely new. In my case, it was great as I didn’t have to do any post-replacement configuration but it also means that your data is completely exposed if someone gets hold of your disks. That said, if you fail at securing your devices physically, you’re hacked anyway!
Hope this alleviates any concerns when having to replace your Synology device with another one in case of a replacement.
Thanks much. Needed just this info π
Do you know if this would work across different Synology models as well, or is it limited to when you are replacing with an exact same model housing?
Kind regards
Apologies that I couldn’t reply sooner.
Not having tested it, I can only assume that it will, if you’re running DSM 5 or above and follow the tips I mentioned in the blog. Don’t proceed if the disks don’t get detected etc.
That said, the authoritative opinion will only be from Synology. Support is pretty good so maybe you could confirm with them??
Thanks for the info. my 1515+ production NAS went down today. and RMA is a week times.
Have to buy a new one right away. going to buy the same model. but good to know if DSM 5 or greater your guiding steps work. I may get a 1517+.
Thanks for posting. Helped reassure me and save some time in a rollout to a new NAS with two additional drives. I was able to move ahead quickly to the expansion and saving a bunch of setup for a backup system.
Glad it saved you time! That’s why I write such blogs π
Thanks for this info. I’ve just had to go through an RMA of my DS1515+ and this post had my replacement unit back up and running in less than 20 minutes.
I have responded to a survey from Synology regarding my support ticket asking them to put this information into their documentation.
Thanks for mentioning it as the reason why I wrote this post was exactly because I was unsure when it happened to me and there wasn’t anything that could assure me on Synology’s own site..
What happens if you want to take advantage of replacing the old failed Synology with a new one, and at the same time, upgrade to newer and bigger hard drives? Can this be done, or do you need to install the old ones first and recover the system, then one-by-one, swap out the old drives for the new?
Do you know if this works migrating from a different manufacturer of NAS? I am upgrading from a Zyxel 2-bay to a Synology 4-bay. To be honest I wouldn’t even mind if the raid part wouldn’t work. If I could pop at least one of the disks in to copy the files over and reformat that would be a win too – faster than copying terabytes over lan
Hi David,
You must first transfer the original drives, then slowly upgrade the capacity by replacing one drive at at time with the old drive slot, waiting on ‘Healthy’ Storage pool status, then proceeding with the next drive. You do this over the course of days / weeks between your work, free time. It’s automated, and not time consuming. Should take about 2 minutes per swap of your human time.
Hi Kirill,
No, as far as my experience goes, it does not. Synology uses a software-RAID, which means the software is emulting a RAID virtualization environment for your drives, and they are thehn only read by the same virtualization environment which is Synology operating system. What you want to do when changing NAS brands, is copy all your data over to an external USB-drive of mass capacity, then shut down your Synology and then power up your new brand unit and copy over the data once that brand company NAS is up and running.
Thanks Ather for your post it’s surprising how difficult this info is to locate.
I have a “vintage” Synology DS1813+ (and DX513 expansion unit) that I want to decommission I’ve used these 2 units as a backup for my newer DS2419+ and recently added a DX1215II expansion unit that I plan to run as my new backup. All my HDDs are numerically labeled.
All 8 HDDs in the older DS1813+ is configured as “Storage Pool 1 – Volume 1” and all 5 HDDs in the DX513 as “Storage Pool 2 – Volume 2” they are running DSM 6.2.4
The newer DS2413+ has 2 volumes (4 HDDs) configured as “Storage Pool 1 – Volume 1” and (4 HDDs) “Storage Pool 2 – Volume 2” and is at DSM 7.0.1
Here’s my dilemma can I physically transfer the 2 volumes from the older system to the new DX1215II expansion unit?
Since my research tells me you can’t relabel a volume and since the new DS2413+ already have these same volume labels can a transfer be successful under the circumstances?
Hello Hy! I hope you’re doing well.
I do not have experience with your two Synology models, however I have migrated many synologys before including DS1815+ which is similar to your 1813+. I cannot say your migration will complete. I can say one fact however:
You may try! If you keep the disks in the same order, and I recommend labeling them 1-12 like you have done, or 1-6 or however many you have, including expansion units, then go ahead and place them in your new Synology NAS in the same order. If you see a ‘Migration Wizard’ pop up, they are going to work! If not, just put them back. No data will be erased on your disks, so it is a no-risk experience. Enjoy!
Sincerely,
Exsosus
Linux DSM Synology admin
Appreciate your very quick reply!
I’m approaching this with the mindset that the volumes are both backups and if it does fail I can always reformat them in the new system and just begin the tedious backup process over.
BTW when resetting the older system to the factory default settings can this be done without any drives installed?
Thanks again
Hi, quick reply as I am in a meeting! You will do a factory reset after temp. installing DSM 6 on a single basic HDD placed in any slot with all other HDDs removed.
Excellent… many thanks for your help!